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Old 10-30-2009, 01:52 PM
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FATIMA & MARY


According to the Islam faith, Fatima is the name of the wife of Ishmael (Abraham’s 1st son by the slave girl, Hagar).
The Arab people are descendants of Ishmael & Fatima.

Mohammed also named his daughter Fatima.


The city of Fatima in Portugal was named so by Muslims.



So, here comes the connection between Catholics and Muslims ….. the Mary apparitions.

The Marian apparition that occurred at Fatima, Portugal has been officially approved by the Catholic Church.
The message of Our Lady of Fatima was to unite all religions into one.
(Remember, Catholics believe that Muslims worship the same God as they do. They just disagree on details, the main one being the attributes of JESUS.)

But they BOTH highly revere Mary.
Mohammed was even recorded as saying that Mary would be one of this wives in Paradise.
Muslims flock to the Marian apparitions, just like Catholics.

Quote:
When a priest of the Catholic church comes by to bless a Muslim, the Muslim will kiss the rosary if the priest will pull the cross off. To Islam, the cross is the hindrance, but they will kiss the virgin Mary if the cross is taken off the prayer beads.
Remember, Muslims do not believe Jesus was crucified.

So, Muslims have no problem kissing the rosary (which represents Mary) as long as a cross is not attached to the rosary beads.
Muslims have prayer beads as well, so prayer beads are no problem to them.



Now, here’s something interesting about Fatima.
The Mary apparition at Fatima gave 3 secrets. Two have been told, but the 3rd one was to be kept secret until a time in the future. The Pope and the bishop of Fatima were allowed to know the secrets, and reveal them at specified times.
The 3rd has yet to be revealed. However, the Bishop of Fatima said the following about it:

Quote:
"We must return to the Rosary and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, for Mary is the last anchor of salvation for a world gone wrong"


Mohammed also gave a secret to his daughter, Fatima, that is supposed to be revealed in the last days.

Quote:
A former Muslim from Persia wrote a book and said that as Muhammed was dying, he whispered a secret to Fatima, and that secret is to be revealed at the end of days




Islam believes in 12 Imans.
All the 12 Imans must be descendants of FATIMA (daughter of Mohammed).
FATIMA was married to Ali.
We talked about Ali earlier. He was one of the 10 Caliphs who deposed the first 3 Caliphs as invalid because they were not related to Mohammed. (I compared this with the 10 horned beast. One of the horns arose among the 10 and uprooted the first 3 horns.)

So, we have 12 Imans (all descendants through Ali & FATIMA).

The 12th Iman would be Al-Mahdi (who is to appear in the last days to unite the world under Allah).


So, you have Ali & Fatima ( father & mother).
You have their 12 children (descendants), one of which will be greater than the other 11.
(Read the bolded part again before you go on.)


Do you see a parallel with the following:

Genesis 37
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?




Notice the symbols of the dream – sun (father), moon (mother), and stars (sons).
Joseph, one of the 12 sons, has a dream that he will become greater than his father, mother, and the rest of the twelve brothers.


How did Mary appear in many of her apparitions:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...nmoonstars.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...moonstars2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...moonstars3.jpg




Revelation 12

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:




Of course, everything pointed out in this thread could just be a coincidence.
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