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Eating of that tree, and examples, would be a good study.
Ok, lets do so
I'll start at thread on it


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~Is.66:16~
  • For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh:
    and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
The slain of the Lord are these
  • 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens
    #1: behind one tree in the midst,
    #2: eating swine's flesh,
    #3: and the abomination,
    #4: and the mouse,
    shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

ahhhhhh, but a remenant shall be saved, and shall escape the clutches of that tree
  • ~{Rev.2:18}~
    And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
    19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

    20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
    21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

    22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
    23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
    24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

    25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
    26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
    27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
    28 And I will give him the morning star.
back to Isaiah
  • and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.

    20And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.

    21And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.
Now on more referance to this great Whore which we call
"Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols."

Quote:
~{Matt 13.33}~
Another parable spake he unto them;
The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took,
and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
Quote:
~{Isaiaih 65:11}~
But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.


~{Proverbs 2:11}~
Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:

12To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;

13Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;

14Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;

15Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:

16To deliver thee from the strange woman,
{and the Tree whic stands in the midst of the garden}
even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;

17Which
#1: forsaketh the guide of her youth,
#2: and forgetteth the covenant of her God.

18 For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.
So who is this strange woman, Jezebel
and what has she hidden in the meal and taught the servants to eat

what was the guide of her youth,
which she forsook
and
what was the covenant of her God,
which she has forgotten
  • till the whole was leavened
What is the leaven she hid in the meal that makes all things worthless, desolute, and not fit for the dunghill

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The flesh of the pig, swine, is so close to the flesh of men that medicial science uses it to heal, fix and repair the human body,
it is so close to "The Flesh" of men that "The Flesh" won't reject it as something foreign

hopefully yopu are thinking by now let me repeate that
"The Flesh of Swine" is so close to human that your "Fleshly Body" will not reject it

That the way it is with the doctrines, teachings, and theology of that tree
"The Flesh of Swine, and the abomomination are so close to truth,
the carnal, fleshly, mind of the earthly christian will accept it, andnot reject it

only those that have been
  • "Hewn and shaped by the prophets"
will discern the error


another example of "Eating the flesh of Swine"

Easter
those that do so
  • shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
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The flesh of the pig, swine, is so close to the flesh of men that medicial science uses it to heal, fix and repair the human body,
it is so close to "The Flesh" of men that "The Flesh" won't reject it as something foreign

hopefully yopu are thinking by now let me repeate that
"The Flesh of Swine" is so close to human that your "Fleshly Body" will not reject it

That the way it is with the doctrines, teachings, and theology of that tree
"The Flesh of Swine, and the abomomination are so close to truth,
the carnal, fleshly, mind of the earthly christian will accept it, andnot reject it
Wow. Good analogy.
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maybe thats the reason scripture refers too the false teachers, apostles, and prophets as "Swine"

they are so close, they fooled almost the entire new testament church even in the days when the real apostles were still with the church
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They have been adding to the gospel and taking away from the gospel ever since.
Here a little, there a little.

I think all that leaven has exploded into gooey mess all over the kitchen!!! :devil4:
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Good stuff Buzz.
I like the start of this thread.
Good food for thought.
Let me throw a wrench in the mix.


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The flesh of the pig, swine, is so close to the flesh of men that medicial science uses it to heal, fix and repair the human body,
it is so close to "The Flesh" of men that "The Flesh" won't reject it as something foreign
Okay, lets talk about "the flesh" for a moment.


The wisdom of God say's...

Lev 11:7
And the swine,
though he divide the hoof,
and be cloven-footed,
yet he cheweth not the cud;
he is unclean to you.
Lev 11:8
Of their flesh shall ye not eat,
and their carcass shall ye not touch;
they are unclean to you.

To wit...

1Co 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men;
and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren,
how that not many wise men after the flesh,
not many mighty,
not many noble,
are called:
1Co 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world
to confound the wise;
and God hath chosen the weak things of the world
to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28
And base things of the world,
and things which are despised,
hath God chosen,
yea, and things which are not,
to bring to naught things that are:
1Co 1:29
That no flesh should glory in his presence.
1Co 1:30
But of him are ye in Christ Jesus,
who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness,
and sanctification,
and redemption:
1Co 1:31
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth,
let him glory in the Lord.

Unless one would rather put faith in the widom of medicial science.



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hopefully yopu are thinking by now let me repeate that
"The Flesh of Swine" is so close to human that your "Fleshly Body" will not reject it
Ahhhh, but my "fleshly body" does indeed reject it,
Always has from childhood.
And now so does my spirit.
As did Daniels, Peters, etc, etc,....
Whom I'm sure never has surgery with swines flesh.

So how can one say, "my fleshly body" will not reject it?
Perhaps the heathen are acustom to it?
( I also speak spiritually)


:gpat

How can it be that my flesh body can be sanctified,
yet the swine flesh never was by the word of God?

"Neither shall ye touch it"

God's wisdom-vs-mans.


On to Isaiah:

The word "tree" doesn't exist in Isaiah 66:17.

So we go to what, or rather who, is in 'the gardens midst'.


Gen 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2
And the woman said unto the serpent,
We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3
But of the fruit of the tree
which is in the midst of the garden,
God hath said,
Ye shall not eat of it,
neither shall ye touch it,
lest ye die.

Same thing with the swines flesh.
Ye shall not eat,
neither shall ye touch it.
It is unclean.

So lets assume we're talking about Satan as the one in the midst of the garden.

Isaiah 66:17 {Greens Interlinear}

Those who sanctify themselves,
and purify themselves to the gardens,
[each] one in the midst,
eaters of swine flesh,
and the hateful thing,
and the mouse -
these are cut off together, says Yahveh.
(These are not sanctified by the Word of God, but man is, in Jesus Christ.)

So Whose this referring too?

We need to back up a bit....


Quote:
Isa 66:4
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
That's apostate Israel, and none but Israel that this refers to.



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another example of "Eating the flesh of Swine"

Easter
those that do so

shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
I think the same thing but that would be assuming that the "tree in the midst of the garden" is Asherah, even though it doesn't appear in the verse.

And that would connect to the goddess Ashtoreth, the productive representative of life. And we all know what they did in 'the gardens' of worship. We see that same fertility act being represented at easter. The symbol of the eggs and the bunny.
"The hateful thing"


But the whore isn't the catholic church.
It's an external 'type,' for sure.

The whore is Aholah and Aholibah.

Your right about one thing Buzz,
and that this is about 'idol' worshiping.
The worship of 'the beast' and his 'image'
Because the 'serpent' is more subtle than
"All the beast of the field"
Da' men "as big as trees"


Eze 23:2
Son of man, there were two women,
the daughters of one mother:
Eze 23:3
And they committed whoredoms in Egypt;
they committed whoredoms in their youth:
there were their breasts pressed,
and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
Eze 23:4
And the names of them were Aholah the elder,
and Aholibah her sister:
and they were Mine, and they bore sons and daughters.
Thus were their names;
Samaria is Aholah, (Northern Kingdom)
and Jerusalem Aholibah. (Southern Kingdom)

Aholah = Tribes of Israel

Aholibah = Tribes of Judah.

Their name means ”My Tabenacle”


Eze 23:5
And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine;
and she doted on her lovers,
on the Assyrians her neighbors,…..

Eze 23:11
And when her sister Aholibah saw this,
she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she,
and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.

To wit...

Eze 23:25
And I will set my jealousy against thee,
and they shall deal furiously with thee:
they shall take away thy nose and thine ears;
and thy remnant shall fall by the sword:
they shall take thy sons and thy daughters;
and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire.


Eze 23:28
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold, I will deliver thee into the hand of them whom thou hatest,
into the hand of them from whom thy mind is alienated:
Eze 23:29
And they shall deal with thee hatefully,
and shall take away all thy labor,
and shall leave thee naked and bare:
and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered,
both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.







Here is the same whore…


Quote:
Rev 17:16
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,
these shall hate the whore, (Aholah and Aholibah)
and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
And again, to compare...

Eze 23:29
And they shall deal with thee hatefully,
and shall take away all thy labor,
and shall leave thee naked and bare:
and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered,
both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.


Eze 23:25
And I will set my jealousy against thee,
and they shall deal furiously with thee:
they shall take away thy nose and thine ears;
and thy remnant shall fall by the sword:
they shall take thy sons and thy daughters;
and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire.


That's Rev. 17:16 almost word for word.


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